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  From:  DW (DeathWish123)   7/16/2001 7:05 pm  
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Does anyone else have a figure of this? I do, and I love it. 
But is it blasphamy?

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  From:  Blood_Bought (RFI1965)   7/16/2001 7:50 pm  
To:  DW (DeathWish123)   (2 of 15)  
 
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In the sense of speaking evil of God this word is found in Ps. 74:18; Isa. 52:5; Rom. 2:24; Rev. 13:1, 6; 16:9, 11, 21. It denotes also any kind of calumny, or evil-speaking, or abuse (1 Kings 21:10; Acts 13:45; 18:6, etc.). Our Lord was accused of blasphemy when he claimed to be the Son of God (Matt. 26:65; comp. Matt. 9:3; Mark 2:7). They who deny his Messiahship blaspheme Jesus (Luke 22:65; John 10:36). 

Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Matt. 12:31, 32; Mark 3:28, 29; Luke 12:10) is regarded by some as a continued and obstinate rejection of the gospel, and hence is an unpardonable sin, simply because as long as a sinner remains in unbelief he voluntarily excludes himself from pardon. Others regard the expression as designating the sin of attributing to the power of Satan those miracles which Christ performed, or generally those works which are the result of the Spirit's agency. 




In the name of Yeshua haMashiach,
God bless you,
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  From:  DW (DeathWish123)   7/16/2001 7:54 pm  
To:  Blood_Bought (RFI1965)   (3 of 15)  
 
  135.3 in reply to 135.2  
 
Have you seen the buddy christ? It is Jesus, but not the way most people would see him as.

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  From:  Blood_Bought (RFI1965)   7/16/2001 8:20 pm  
To:  DW (DeathWish123)   (4 of 15)  
 
  135.4 in reply to 135.3  
 
No, I haven't seen it. 
If it is a mockery of God, I'm also not interested in seeing it.



In the name of Yeshua haMashiach,
God bless you,
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  From:  BenRDeemed (ScottR1982)   7/17/2001 7:19 am  
To:  DW (DeathWish123)   (5 of 15)  
 
  135.5 in reply to 135.3  
 
I have not seen the "buddy Christ" nor would I purchase one if I did see it. It is just another attempt of man (through almost 2000 years) to put a face on Jesus that they are comfortable with. Some people are comfortable seeing Jesus as a white guy others as black. No one living today knows what He looks like because we are given no Biblical descriptions of his facial features that would allow us to create an accurate image. 
I would have to wonder why God would not allow that. The only reason that I come up with is that it would lead to worshiping the image rather then God. But God wants us to worship Him in spirit and in truth. 

Enjoy your "buddy Christ" - which by the way, I assume is a stuffed doll of some sort. I'll enjoy my "buddy Christ," which is my Friend that sticks closer then a brother, and has always been there for me. He is there for all who will call on Him. 

BTW... I like you WWID autograph. I would complete the equation WWID = WWJD, yet I know I fall short. Yet every day His tranforming power is at work in my life. 

God's blessings 
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  From:  StevenJn316   7/17/2001 3:48 pm  
To:  BenRDeemed (ScottR1982)   (6 of 15)  
 
  135.6 in reply to 135.5  
 
Hello Scott, I find the fact that the gospels do not record any physical description another example of how the writers were writing what God wanted and not as mere men. Who would write the biography of a person without including a few descriptions... 
I agree with your take that God omitted this info no doubt so we would not worship images, in keeping with his nature and the other scriptures such as the 2nd commandment.
 
  
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  From:  Dr_Shock   7/18/2001 12:27 am  
To:  StevenJn316   (7 of 15)  
 
  135.7 in reply to 135.6  
 
There are a few description of Jesus in the Bible. The Bible pretty much describes Jesus as being completely average looking. Average to the point where he could evade pursuit just by walking into a crowd. There are some other descriptions, most of which potray Jesus as looking very, shall we say, "ethnic" for the region of the world he lived in.


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  From:  DW (DeathWish123)   7/18/2001 8:29 am  
To:  Dr_Shock   (8 of 15)  
 
  135.8 in reply to 135.7  
 
Yes, but Jesus never ran from anyone. He knew he would be killed, and yet he didn't run. 
Personally, I would have run like hell.

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  From:  Dr_Shock   7/19/2001 2:44 am  
To:  DW (DeathWish123)   (9 of 15)  
 
  135.9 in reply to 135.8  
 
Yeah, but Jesus knew he was going to die from the beginning. He had a at least good 20 years to prepare for his death. He probably went through the same stages of loss that everyone does when they find out they're going to die: Disbelief, mourning, anger, and acceptance. Being the son of God, however, he probably went through the rounds rather quickly.


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  From:  Flying V (FLYINGV1)   7/31/2001 5:43 pm  
To:  DW (DeathWish123) unread  (10 of 15)  
 
  135.10 in reply to 135.1  
 
From what I understand, "Buddy Christ" was featured in some movie, apparently a comedy, where some people decided that the image of Jesus crucified was frightening children. So they conjured up a "Buddy Christ" which depicts a smiling, happy Jesus with two thumbs up. 
I never saw this movie, but in unto itself, I don't beleive this is a bad image. If it makes you feel good...why not? 



 
  
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  From:  Dr_Shock   7/31/2001 6:32 pm  
To:  Flying V (FLYINGV1)   (11 of 15)  
 
  135.11 in reply to 135.10  
 
I think DW is banned, but I'd like to respond anyway. 
Shouldn't an image of Jesus be comforting and reassuring anyway? Even if one embraces some of the fire and brimstone ideal, one should still remember that the Bible has its gentle moments as well. 

Jesus walked as a friend to mankind rather then an oppressor, mocker and destroyer. He evenly went peacefully with the Romans. 



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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    7/31/2001 7:41 pm  
To:  Dr_Shock   (12 of 15)  
 
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To be a buddy of Jesus is to embrace the cross of Jesus.

 

The cross is where Jesus went because of His Love for us, to die for the sins of mankind, in return the cross is where mankind rejected Jesus.

 

Yes, it is difficult for children to understand this. I vividly remember when I learned as a child that the Jesus that I knew as a loving friend in all of the Bible studies and Church activities is the Jesus who was arrested and crucified on the cross.

 

After struggling with it I later realized that I had to come to Jesus in an adult manner and to embrace His cross, which was not difficult to do as it was easy to see that society is steeped in sin and in dire need of the cross of Jesus.

 

Non-Christians still reject the cross of Jesus and Non-Christians still want to make God into the image of man, but Christians will always Worship Jesus for His Loving Sacrifice for us on the cross and True Christians will not tamper with the Glorious image of Jesus on the cross.





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  From:  Dr_Shock   8/1/2001 7:36 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (13 of 15)  
 
  135.13 in reply to 135.12  
 
<<<Yes, it is difficult for children to understand this. I vividly remember when I learned as a child that the Jesus that I knew as a loving friend in all of the Bible studies and Church activities is the Jesus who was arrested and crucified on the cross.>>> 
This is the reason why it should be important to associate an observable picture of Jesus with his word when teaching the basis of Christianity. Individuals can have problems connecting the Father and the Son together as most talk of Jesus' death is often kept separate from the rest of his life. Even the events leading up to his final walk and crucifixion are barely emphasized by modern preachers when compared to the many sermons that only discuss the final hours of his life. The cross is an important symbol, but Jesus did more in his lifetime then die on the cross. He went on many travels, spoke many wise words and did many good deeds before his death. Its important to remember not only the values of his sacrifice but also the principles of his life. 

<<<Non-Christians still reject the cross of Jesus and Non-Christians still want to make God into the image of man, but Christians will always Worship Jesus for His Loving Sacrifice for us on the cross and True Christians will not tamper with the Glorious image of Jesus on the cross.>>> 

Man will always see God partly as an image. Our minds think primarily in pictures. It's the way we're wired and we can't help it. Statically, almost all people have a personal idea of what they think Jesus looked like based on what they've been exposed to throughout their lives. There are even some mundane enigmas that the majority naturally can't understand unless it can be illustrated. For some people, the idea of God and Jesus may be like this. Which of the following is going to educate people and inform the public on both a spiritual and emotional level; a lecture from the Bible about the life of Christ or a pictorial representation of Jesus from the Bible practicing his ministry? A picture is worth a thousand words but only a moment in time. 

A crucifix represents Christ's workings but not in a way that actively teaches Jesus' doctrine. Symbolic representation means nothing if the represented is unknown. As dependent on sight as we are, many learn better through icons then through spoken or written word. This being the case, I see nothing wrong with pictures of Jesus depicting him preaching, raising the dead or just showing him amongst the people. In other words, pictures of Christ teaching the ideology of Christ can still contain lessons although they have no words. 

I'll admit, the "Buddy Christ" figure was designed to make people laugh rather then to make them religious. But what if there was someone out there who is honestly reminded by that little plastic figure of all the things that the real Jesus did? A constant, although odd, modern reminder of why one worships. After all, isn't the personal meaning that a physical representation instills more important then the object itself? The statue itself isn't holy, what its made out of isn't blessed and, overall, the appearance is blasphemous to most traditionalists. Tradition aside, it only depicts Jesus smiling down in a modern way. I'm sure that someone, somewhere has a Buddy Christ to help remind them that God sent his son to Earth to walk as one of us, as a friend and as a Rabbi. The medium that Christ shows himself through isn't important. What matters is that someone sees him. You can steal, destroy and defame an object, but you can never touch the individual emotions, thoughts and convictions that a thing first stirred or provoked in a person. 



-The Mad Dr. Shock
 
  
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  From:  Jim (pentitent)    12/23/2001 9:51 pm  
To:  Dr_Shock unread  (14 of 15)  
 
  135.14 in reply to 135.13  
 
Actually, there should be no images of Christ. It goes against the second commandment. 
Exodus 20:4-5  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 

It says not of anything, even those in Heaven. Best to not have any images of what they think Christ is.

May God bless and keep you, my brothers and sisters! 

 
  
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   From:  Alex_Anatole (AlexAnatole)   12/24/2001 6:00 am  
To:  Dr_Shock unread  (15 of 15)  
 
  135.15 in reply to 135.7  
 
Check the StSeraphim.org site, BUILDING PROGRAM, CONSTRUCTION PHOTO ALBUM, for some very traditional icons of Christ and teh Saints. 
Alex 


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